Looking to start my own track day company

velocity bmg · #1 09-28-2007, 01:27 AM

I'm inquiring about insurance, track rental costs, hiring any licensed instructors
and/or riders to help out.

Basically, I'm looking to keep it to 15-20 events a year, Cresson, maybe ECR,
is they loosen up the Ferrari, Porsche BMW club thing a bit.

Went out there one day, and Mr. GQ looked at me and my old 94 as if it were AIDS.

Felt like stuffing the motherfucker in his 325i glove box then and there.

Maximum of 25-30 riders per TD.

Two classes, Intermediate and Advanced.

Must have class M license, must be 19 or older, insurance, etc.

Looking to do 6, 30 minute session per day, intermediates to split time
with the Adbavced guys on the big and small tracks at MSR.

If I can show a profit potential to my boss, he'll buy any membership,
up to probably, and I'm just guessing...10k to 15k range.

Looking to charge $125 a head.

I've come up up with alot of crazy and not so crazy ideas.

Any helpful advice besides the usual...?

Oh, and a few things available to different types of riders on a legal track, away from the fear of cops will also be available.
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shortysboy09 · #2 09-28-2007, 07:05 AM

That's a great idea man... Your price is really fair and i would attend that class for sure.

velocity bmg · #3 09-29-2007, 05:40 PM

Some more very early stuff.

This is gonna take massive work to pull this off...

THESE ARE ROUGH IDEAS...SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

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Now Section A

Types of riders I'd be looking for, and wanting to ride with and be a part of a track day I host.

Allowable riders...

1. Class M (in Texas that means you have a *shock* MOTORCYCLE license) and are legally able to operate a motorcycle on the street.

Since you went to all the time and trouble to get a Class M license, you probably have spent some time riding on the street.

Learing how to accelerate, decelerate, blip the throttle when decelerarating.

You've learned how to stop, quickly, watch for other vehicles, avoid vehicles.

You've learned about different levels of traction, such as clean black asphalt
is grippy, makes you want to push the limits of of our bike.

Gravel and street tires DO NOT go together. So if you are on the track, and
get that feeling that you are suddenly or even slowly losing traction, do not panic.

Stay off the front brake as much as possible, since the front brake is the majority
of your stopping power, any big movements at the lever will result in big movements
at the tire's point of contact, the action of your suspension, frame, weight and direction ypur bike will ultimately take.

You've learned about bumps, uphill, downhill slopes.

Off camber turns, in-camber or what I call rider freindly camber turns, like you are
on rails.

2. No 19 and younger riders who have been on a Gixxer, or ZX-10, or CBR600 for
a grand total of 2 months.

I'm looking at keeping the instruction end on the cheap side, wanting to have riders
who already know these basics.

3. Hard braking/Panic braking
I have had to to panic brake a lot. And if anyone has spent any time on the street syas they haven't...they lie.

You should be able to decelerate, using downshifts, throttle blips, brakes, all at once to haul you down from say 75mph to zero in less than
50-60 yards. Without howling the tire.

I need riders who have already mastered that, or at least got the gist of it.

Accelerating is easy, smooth controlled stops take practice and feel. No other way to describe it.

4. Two classes of riders:

Intermediate...meaning years of street riding, which counts for a lot more than the guys who have done track days their whole lives and
have "only wrecked once".

They simply haven't been in a harsh enough atmosphere...imo.

They have been parading aroundslowly building good technique, but there are things in riding you only learn by trial and fire.

More to come...

This is a lot of work, especially if you are essentially an unknown.

The following is very rough ideas on days, and at least one track I would like to use.

I'm going to have to call those in charge I guess at MSR to get an idea on what it takes for insurance, to operate their etc.

My e-mails have gone unreturned.

20 Scheduled Track Days beginning in May 2008 and running through November 2008.

Days and times subject to already existing TD's and/or race events.

Most probably track days to be held on a Wednesday or Thursday since existing

Track Day companies currently seem to favor Monday's or Friday's.

Most races are held on a Saturday or Sunday. No Track Day to be held on

a Race Day. Too much crowd, rider, and activity control.

Rain days will be cancelled and all riders given a credit for the next available Track Day.

(Rain sucks, motorcycles and rain really sucks.)

Tracks to be used:

The Motorsport Ranch

ECR (Possibly. Depends on what arm and leg they want.)

"Trademarked" name of company.

Vortex and Velocity Track Days

"Find Your Limit"

shortysboy09 · #4 10-02-2007, 01:26 PM

This is really a great idea... Really like your ideas, you're definently heading in the right direction here.

shortysboy09 · #5 10-25-2007, 03:21 PM

Hey velocity any new developments on this topic? I want to see this happen.